STƏYWƏTE:N̓ pronunciation - Revision history

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	'''The short answer (confirmed August 2025):''' '''stəywəte:n̓''' is pronounced '''"sty-wa-tan"''' ({{IPA\|[stəjwəˈteːnˀ]}}) and means '''"the strength of the west wind"''' — symbolizing storms, cleansing, and new beginnings. The name was gifted to Point Grey Secondary School by the Musqueam community in a naming ceremony on '''May 20, 1998'''. See [[#Update: August 2025\|the official explanation]] below.		'''The short answer (confirmed August 2025):''' '''stəywəte:n̓''' is pronounced '''"sty-wa-tan"''' (IPA: <span style="font-family:'Charis SIL','Doulos SIL','Gentium Plus','Lucida Sans Unicode',sans-serif;">[stəjwəˈteːnˀ]</span>) and means '''"the strength of the west wind"''' — symbolizing storms, cleansing, and new beginnings. The name was gifted to Point Grey Secondary School by the Musqueam community in a naming ceremony on '''May 20, 1998'''. See [[#Update: August 2025\|the official explanation]] below.
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	The name is written in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanist_phonetic_notation NAPA] (Americanist notation), which differs from the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet IPA] mostly in a handful of symbols. Converted to IPA, a reasonable transcription is:		The name is written in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanist_phonetic_notation NAPA] (Americanist notation), which differs from the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet IPA] mostly in a handful of symbols. Converted to IPA, a reasonable transcription is:

	: '''stəywəte:n̓''' → ~~{{IPA\|~~[stəjwəˈteːnˀ]}}		: '''stəywəte:n̓''' → '''[stəjwəˈteːnˀ]'''

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	! Letter (NAPA) !! IPA !! Notes		! Letter (NAPA) !! IPA !! Notes
	\|-		\|-
	\| s \|~~\| {{IPA~~\|[s]}} \|\| as in English ''sit''		\| s \|\| [s] \|\| as in English ''sit''
	\|-		\|-
	\| t \|~~\| {{IPA~~\|[t]}} \|\| as in English ''top''		\| t \|\| [t] \|\| as in English ''top''
	\|-		\|-
	\| ə \|~~\| {{IPA~~\|[ə]}} \|\| schwa — the "uh" in ''sofa'', unstressed		\| ə \|\| [ə] \|\| schwa — the "uh" in ''sofa'', unstressed
	\|-		\|-
	\| y \|~~\| {{IPA~~\|[j]}} \|\| In Americanist notation ⟨y⟩ is the glide, like English ''y'' in ''yes'' (not a vowel).		\| y \|\| [j] \|\| In Americanist notation ⟨y⟩ is the glide, like English ''y'' in ''yes'' (not a vowel).
	\|-		\|-
	\| w \|~~\| {{IPA~~\|[w]}} \|\| as in English ''we''		\| w \|\| [w] \|\| as in English ''we''
	\|-		\|-
	\| ə \|~~\| {{IPA~~\|[ə]}} \|\| schwa again		\| ə \|\| [ə] \|\| schwa again
	\|-		\|-
	\| t \|~~\| {{IPA~~\|[t]}} \|\| as in English ''top''		\| t \|\| [t] \|\| as in English ''top''
	\|-		\|-
	\| e: \|~~\| {{IPA~~\|[eː]}} \|\| The colon is a '''length mark''': a long ''e''. In IPA this is written with the triangular-colon ~~{{IPA\|~~[ː]}}, i.e. ~~{{IPA\|~~[eː]}} — like a drawn-out ''ay'' rather than the punctuation it looks like.		\| e: \|\| [eː] \|\| The colon is a '''length mark''': a long ''e''. In IPA this is written with the triangular-colon [ː], i.e. [eː] — like a drawn-out ''ay'' rather than the punctuation it looks like.
	\|-		\|-
	\| n̓ \|~~\| {{IPA~~\|[nˀ]}} \|\| A '''glottalized''' (ejective-like) ''n''; the little mark over the letter signals the glottal constriction.		\| n̓ \|\| [nˀ] \|\| A '''glottalized''' (ejective-like) ''n''; the little mark over the letter signals the glottal constriction.
	\|}		\|}

	A few caveats:		A few caveats:
	* This is '''my approximation''', not an authoritative Musqueam transcription. NAPA and IPA agree closely on these vowels and on ~~{{IPA\|~~/s t w/}}, but the exact quality of ⟨e:⟩ and the realization of the glottalized ~~{{IPA\|~~[nˀ]}} are best confirmed by a fluent speaker.		* This is '''my approximation''', not an authoritative Musqueam transcription. NAPA and IPA agree closely on these vowels and on /s t w/, but the exact quality of ⟨e:⟩ and the realization of the glottalized [nˀ] are best confirmed by a fluent speaker.
	* The official anglophone-friendly spelling '''"sty-wa-tan"''' rounds the long ~~{{IPA\|~~[eː]}} toward an English ~~{{IPA\|~~[æ]}}/~~{{IPA\|~~[ə]}} ("-tan") and puts the stress on the final syllable. That simplification is for English speakers; it is not the precise hən̓q̓əmin̓əm̓ value.		* The official anglophone-friendly spelling '''"sty-wa-tan"''' rounds the long [eː] toward an English [æ]/[ə] ("-tan") and puts the stress on the final syllable. That simplification is for English speakers; it is not the precise hən̓q̓əmin̓əm̓ value.
	* The ⟨:⟩ in the written form is the source of a lot of confusion (it reads as punctuation to search engines and to English speakers); writing it with the IPA length mark — '''stəywəteːn̓''' — makes the intent clearer.		* The ⟨:⟩ in the written form is the source of a lot of confusion (it reads as punctuation to search engines and to English speakers); writing it with the IPA length mark — '''stəywəteːn̓''' — makes the intent clearer.

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-'''The short answer (confirmed August 2025):''' '''stəywəte:n̓''' is pronounced '''"sty-wa-tan"''' and means '''"the strength of the west wind"''' — symbolizing storms, cleansing, and new beginnings. The name was gifted to Point Grey Secondary School by the Musqueam community in a naming ceremony on '''May 20, 1998'''. See [[#Update: August 2025|the official explanation]] below.
+'''The short answer (confirmed August 2025):''' '''stəywəte:n̓''' is pronounced '''"sty-wa-tan"''' ({{IPA|[stəjwəˈteːnˀ]}}) and means '''"the strength of the west wind"''' — symbolizing storms, cleansing, and new beginnings. The name was gifted to Point Grey Secondary School by the Musqueam community in a naming ceremony on '''May 20, 1998'''. See [[#Update: August 2025|the official explanation]] below.
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 On a related note, I had difficulty hunting for my tweet with [https://x.com/search?q=st%C9%99yw%C9%99te%3An%CC%93 x.com/search?q=stəywəte:n̓] — dropping the final character ([https://x.com/search?q=st%C9%99yw%C9%99te%3A x.com/search?q=stəywəte:]) does a little better. I believe it is the colon in the tweets which throws the search index off. Perhaps they might use the IPA long-vowel character ː to write stəywəteːn̓, so search indexes would realize it's human language and not punctuation.
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	* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Grey_Secondary_School		* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Grey_Secondary_School
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	== See Also ==		== See Also ==
	* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Grey_Secondary_School		* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Grey_Secondary_School
	* [~~https://www.facebook.com/reel/1061768169420711~~ šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street]		* [[šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street]]

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	==~~Since recording the above, I have consulted [[~~ChatGPT~~]] which said:~~==		== ChatGPT Consultation ==

	'''Nik:''' What does STƏYWƏTE:N̓ mean and how is it pronounced?		'''Nik:''' What does STƏYWƏTE:N̓ mean and how is it pronounced?
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	Please note that this transcription is an approximation based on the pronunciation guide provided earlier and might not fully capture the nuances of the Hul'q'umi'num' language. Consulting a native speaker or a linguist with expertise in Hul'q'umi'num' would provide a more accurate IPA transcription.		Please note that this transcription is an approximation based on the pronunciation guide provided earlier and might not fully capture the nuances of the Hul'q'umi'num' language. Consulting a native speaker or a linguist with expertise in Hul'q'umi'num' would provide a more accurate IPA transcription.

	==Update: August 2025==		== Update: August 2025 ==
	After three years of uncertainty, the school finally provided an official explanation in its Community Newsletter (dated August 22, 2025), which was emailed to families. The newsletter states that:		After three years of uncertainty, the school finally provided an official explanation in its '''Community Newsletter (dated August 22, 2025)''', which was emailed to families. The newsletter states that:

	* The name is pronounced “sty-wa-tan” (a simplified pronunciation to help anglophone students).		* The name is pronounced '''"sty-wa-tan"''' (a simplified pronunciation to help anglophone students).
	* It means “the strength of the west wind,” symbolizing storms, cleansing, and new beginnings.		* It means '''"the strength of the west wind,"''' symbolizing storms, cleansing, and new beginnings.
	* The name was gifted by the Musqueam community in a naming ceremony held on May 20, 1998.		* The name was '''gifted by the Musqueam community''' in a naming ceremony held on '''May 20, 1998'''.

	~~Typos~~: staywaten, stywaten		''Common misspellings: staywaten, stywaten''

	==See Also==		== See Also ==
	* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Grey_Secondary_School		* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Grey_Secondary_School
	* [https://www.facebook.com/reel/1061768169420711 šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street]		* [https://www.facebook.com/reel/1061768169420711 šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street]

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	* The name was gifted by the Musqueam community in a naming ceremony held on May 20, 1998.		* The name was gifted by the Musqueam community in a naming ceremony held on May 20, 1998.

			Typos: staywaten, stywaten

	==See Also==		==See Also==

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	==Update: August 2025==		==Update: August 2025==
	After three years of uncertainty, the school finally provided an official explanation in its Community Newsletter (dated August 22, 2025) ~~[oai_citation:0‡Newsletter.pdf](file-service://file-RmahYguJrqoUt4uJEPDtsp)~~. The newsletter states that:		After three years of uncertainty, the school finally provided an official explanation in its Community Newsletter (dated August 22, 2025), which was emailed to families. The newsletter states that:

	* The name is pronounced “sty-wa-tan” (a simplified pronunciation to help anglophone students).		* The name is pronounced “sty-wa-tan” (a simplified pronunciation to help anglophone students).
	* It means “the strength of the west wind,” symbolizing storms, cleansing, and new beginnings.		* It means “the strength of the west wind,” symbolizing storms, cleansing, and new beginnings.
	* The name was gifted by the Musqueam community in a naming ceremony held on May 20, 1998.		* The name was gifted by the Musqueam community in a naming ceremony held on May 20, 1998.

	~~This aligns with much of what I had pieced together earlier, while also confirming the cultural context officially.~~

	==See Also==		==See Also==